{"id":42775,"date":"2024-11-12T10:49:46","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T15:49:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ourpublicservice.org\/?post_type=pps_podcast&#038;p=42775"},"modified":"2024-12-05T12:12:33","modified_gmt":"2024-12-05T17:12:33","slug":"too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen-with-lanhee-chen","status":"publish","type":"pps_podcast","link":"https:\/\/ourpublicservice.org\/podcast\/too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen-with-lanhee-chen\/","title":{"rendered":"Too many cooks in the kitchen? With Lanhee Chen\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Assigning one job to two people can be a recipe for disaster. Yet, presidential candidates typically have two policy teams\u2014one for the campaign operation and one for the transition operation. Campaigns already do policy work, so why does a transition need a policy team, too? Today on \u201cTransition Lab,\u201d we\u2019re joined by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hoover.org\/profiles\/lanhee-j-chen\">Lanhee Chen<\/a>, the policy director for Mitt Romney\u2019s 2012 presidential campaign, to talk about the differences between these teams, why they\u2019re both essential to a successful transition and how they should work together.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chen previously served as a member of the Social Security Advisory Board during the Obama and Trump administrations and in the Department of Health and Human Services during the George W. Bush presidency. He is a public policy fellow at the Hoover Institution, a director and lecturer at Stanford University&#8217;s public policy program, and a partner and co-lead of the Brunswick Group\u2019s US public affairs, policy and regulatory practice. 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